Tuesday, January 3, 2012

Keith Olbermann Feud with Al Gore over Occupy Wall Street - Duarte Square - Trinity Church Wall Street?

Trinity Church Property Trespasser Arrested - Duarte Square - Dec.17

Something has not been right on Al Gore’s Current TV since a retired Episcopalian Bishop gave emphasis to the billions of real estate that Trinity Church Wall Street can’t share a small piece of with Occupy Wall Street.  


Since the event happened on a weekend in December, and it became a non-story even on Keith Olbermann’s Countdown show.

Has Al Gore folded like Obama to his rich Wall Street Masters?


What’s going on between Keith Olbermann and Current TV?
Olbermann is not covering the Iowa caucus Tuesday night -- and it doesn't look like the decision was his alone.
Earlier Tuesday, Olbermann indicated that his show "Countdown" was returning, but by 7 p.m. ET, he said it was not to be.
“So as not to mislead: I am informed Countdown will not be on tonight," Olbermann tweeted. "I must defer on all questions to @JoelHyatt @AlGore and @Current.”
Instead, Gore is on air alongside his two other prime time hosts, Cenk Uygur and Jennifer Granholm. Current's Chief News Officer and on-air visage is MIA.
Also read: Where Are Keith Olbermann and Glenn Beck? 
These mixed signals come amid reports of tension between Olbermann, who has fought his way off networks before, and Current.
As the New York Times’ Brian Stelter wrote last Thursday, Olbermann's involvement in the election so far – or lack thereof – is puzzling. He did not appear in a pair of special reports that followed GOP candidate debates.
“These absences suggest that there may be new tension between Mr. Olbermann and the managers at Current, who are trying to create a progressive-oriented cable news channel,” Stelter wrote.
Olbermann responded with an extended tweet claiming that “anybody who describes my disposition towards Current as "disgruntled" is either uninformed, working from a personal agenda, wrong -- or all of the above.”
But the fact remains that Olbermann is off and his prime time cohorts are in.
Olbermann says he’s back tomorrow, but the real back story is anybody’s guess.




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Pennsylvania Sharia Discriminates Against Iowa Marriage Laws - St. Luke's Hospital Healthcare Bethlehem Pa.



That according to St. Luke's Hospital and Heathcare Network based in Bethlehem Pa.

That forty years of Catholic politicians pushing Catholic Sharia law line by line in the Pennsylvania Legislature makes all marriages in Iowa null and void.  All the people in Iowa are living in sin?  All the Children produced by a man and a woman in Iowa are considered Bastards in Pennsylvania according to Pennsylvania State Christian Sharia Law?

Is the Governor of Pennsylvania elected?  Why bother?  Just have the Vatican appoint a lifetime Prince Bishop.

I don't get it unless there are Christian fanatics in the St. Luke's Hospital Human Resource department that think that backwater laws in a backwater part of a backwater state, think that nobody will notice the global Godless Corporate injustice and discrimination against Gay People in Bethlehem Pa.?


St. Luke's denies employee's request for same-sex spousal health benefits

Watching her father care for her dying mother was a sobering experience for St. Luke’s nurse Carol Stevens.

Stevens, 56, of North Whitehall Township, realized if her wife, Beth Goudy, became ill she would be ineligible for family, medical or bereavement leave because her employer of 14 years does not recognize Goudy as her spouse.

The couple wed in a religious ceremony May 6, 2007, in Pennsylvania and then legally married in Iowa in Goudy’s hometown Sept. 28, 2009. But their marriage is not recognized by Pennsylvania.

Request denied:

Stevens was heartened when she learned the St. Luke’s Hospital & Health Network nondiscrimination policy had been updated to say it does not exclude, deny benefits to or otherwise discriminate against protected classes, including those grouped by “sexual preference, gender identity and expression.”

She thought it meant the network had changed its stance and was going to begin extending benefits like nearby Lehigh Valley Health Network does. Stevens added Goudy to her plan during open enrollment.

On Dec. 5, her request was denied. It is frustrating to be legally married in one state but not be recognized in another, Stevens said.




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Allentown Diocese settles Discrimination lawsuit with Muslim bookkeeper



My friend Dave sent me this item.  He lives in the general area served by the newspaper. 

I am on the fence here.  I want to say something about this seemingly nasty hunky priest discriminating against this Muslim American bookkeeper.  But he is no Father Bill Breslin of Boulder Colorado with an issue of Cafeteria Dogma.

I have lived within a dozen blocks of this particular church in Easton and the people of Easton are insular and socially retarded in that backwater corner of the American culture.

The fact that Ms. Omayma Arafa worked for the diocese for two years says a lot about the diocese hiring her in the first place. 

That parish I believe shares its elementary school with another or several parishes and thus the need for the diocese having bookkeepers coming in from outside to do the parish books.

The bottom line is that she probably was the last hired and the first fired.

And the insular socially retarded comments of this priest just comes with everyday living in upstate Pennsylvania.  Get over it.

Whatever.


According to court records: 
Arafa, who is an Egyptian Muslim, worked for the diocese from October 2007 until January 2009 when she was fired because her supervisor, Monsignor Edward Zemanik, "had a cold, distant and hostile attitude" toward her. 
Zemanik allegedly made comments about Arafa's religious beliefs. One day Zemanik saw her eating pizza and "hostilely inquired, 'Aren't there things you can't eat?'" When Arafa asked for a week off surrounding Christmas to spend time with her children, who were home, he allegedly asked her, "What do you care?" 
Arafa also made complaints about a volunteer, who harbored an "incredible disrespect" toward Arafa and said she "should not be there," because of her religion. Arafa claims nothing was done about the complaint.
In January 2009, Zemanik told Arafa that "things were going to change around here" and all of the diocesan employees were brought in to meet with managers. When Arafa met with her managers, including Zemanik, she was fired. The diocese told her that it could not afford to employ her and was going to hire an outside agency for bookkeeping. Arafa's job was eventually taken over by a non-Muslim male employee.

Monsignor Zemanik has since been reassigned to Saint Ambrose Church in Schuykill Haven, Pa..






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Monday, January 2, 2012

Cardinal Chaput Offers to Sell His 61 Room Palace in Philly

$200 Million Property - 16 ? Rooms

Cardinal Archbishop Chaput of Philadelphia is threatening to sell his 61 room Mansion at 5700 City Avenue in Philadelphia.  Yeah right.  It is perhaps a sincere for the moment and or a feigned gesture to offset all the pain of school and parish closings coming on the scheduled January 6, 2012 announcement.

The Philadelphia Inquirer misreported the scale and dimensions of this mega mansion that Philadelphia Archbishops have lived in since the 1930s with the infamous Cardinal Dougherty being the first.  Dougherty was the one that staged a successful Catholic boycott of the “Jewish Movie Industry” in the 30's in order to censor every movie produced in Hollywood at the time.  Can’t find a decent photo of him on the net but I believe there is a Thomas Eakins portrait of him in the Philadelphia Museum of Art when he was an ambitious monsignor on the make.  Thomas Eakins portraits did not come cheap back when.  Humble.  Humble. Humble.

Anyway, the Inquirer that these days seems to censor and or clear all its reporting of Cardinal Chaput’s new regime through the Chancery, had posted a niggardly photo, cloaked by massive trees, of the back of the mansion, the servant's wing no doubt, and states that it is 16 rooms (on which floor?).  More like 61 rooms in this “Neverland” fantasy palace for the bishops of Philly.  Cardinal Krol had a three hole golf course on the back part of this 8.7 acre chateau. 

I estimate you could build at least 200 luxury condos on the property at an easy one to two million minimum apiece.  Money, money, money is needed for the tens of millions of dollars going to the lawyers and child abuse settlements and show trials about to begin in the Spring there in Philly. Sell the Prince Crib or close a dozen or two high schools and grade schools? Tuff choice. Whatever.

Cardinal Chaput is only offering to sell the property to offset all the pain the faithful will have to endure on the Feast of the Three Kings January 6. The offer of this property sale and its likely million dollar a year upkeep will be no doubt be forgotten January 7 and misreported and or never again reported in the Philadelphia Inquirer. 

Whatever again.

Have a nice day. 


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Sunday, January 1, 2012

Day 62 - Year 152 A.D. (After Darwin)



Day 62.  The Pagan New Year is upon us.


The year is flying along.  The second month of the year just disappeared.


I believe we should use the European way of calculating, depicting a date. Today is 1-3-152 A.D. (After Darwin)

reference: http://thisculturalchristian.blogspot.com/2011/11/happy-celtic-new-year-year-152-ad-after.html


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Friday, December 30, 2011

Doctor Nicola Riley of Utah – Victim of the American Politics of Vagina and Christian Sharia

Doctor Nicola Riley of Utah

In America, Doctors who operate within the law or have to use loopholes in laws to perform female medical procedures such as abortion will continue to be harassed and even killed by Christian Sharia fanatics who stalk and lobby for some pure state of religious excellence.

I shall not comment on some of the aspects of this case, but I do know Doctor Nicola Riley personally.  I have known her since she was a young teen and can remember when she went off to West Point in those days when females at the Point were a novel thing.

I don’t know anything about her legal problems in the military but she left prison to start a new life and entered Medical School in Utah.  Her services to the elderly and the poor were needed there until such services got commoditized on some big corporate spreadsheet thing in Utah.

She had been working with the elderly and Medicaid crowd as I understand it, before that human level of care got turned into a business racket by perhaps religious institutions looking to the future on spreadsheet graph sheets and seeing only the piles of money to be made in giving aging Boomers minimum care at maximum government rates in shitty nursing homes, now seemingly the standard in Utah.

That I hear it is getting near close to impossible to find a major nursing home enterprise in Utah that is headed by minorities, or non-Mormons, male or female. They have all been shown the door.  When such care and profits from it were marginal, services from out-of-staters, minorities and non-Mormons were needed.  That has all changed in free market deregulated capitalistic Utah.

That young green inexperienced female Mormon doctors from the U of U are brought in to sign off on anything the accountants recommend in these for profit only nursing facilities.  Ethics is out the door not unlike what I witnessed in Wall Street where green kids out of college were told how to steal the national treasury etc. – the public be damned.

These young green rubber stamps now head these money making business enterprises and are now in charge of the elderly there.  If I had a choice between a nursing home in America or suicide, I would gladly choose suicide rather than rot for years in my own urine and feces and depend on care from minimum wage, low or no benefits attendants and illegals at pre-morgue care nursing homes, Utah style.

Getting back to the politics of Vagina and male right-wing politicians wanting a show trial in Maryland to prove once and for all that all women have no rights in the use of their body or a free choice in medical care regarding female medical procedures – I am now reading my bible to find a passage in that noble book to prove that prostate care or surgery is a sin against the Almighty and that all Catholic and Christian Sharia law should equally condemn it with birth control and abortion.

This culture war in America on the human Vagina is getting ridiculous.

No doubt Doctor Riley, squeezed out of the Utah medical work previously available to non-whites and non-Mormons, had to supplement her income in Maryland or New Jersey to pay her student loans to become a doctor. No doubt that is how she came to become a doctor that performed abortions.  And no doubt, as a human being, she is capable of making a mistake in her desired profession.

I know Nicola’s family that has its roots in good, wholesome, working class, middle class Harlem and a Roman Catholic Church that used to care about people and not the bottom line of spreadsheets.

I wish her well and no doubt after being stalked and harassed by the Right Wing Lobbying Industrial “Morality” Complex, she will emerge, vindicated, stronger and run for office and become the first female minority senator or governor of that great state of Utah. Much reform is needed there regarding the human condition.

You are in my prayers Nicola. And don’t let the hate bastards get you down!

Via con Dios!



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My Jesus Relic is more Sacred than Your Jesus Relic!


Orthodox and Armenian monks riot in the church of the so-called "nativity" in Bethlehem, Palestinian territory. 


The usual turf war stuff.  The usual religion stuff.  (T.U.R.S.-TURS)







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Dan Fogelberg - Auld Lang Syne




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Wednesday, December 28, 2011

Salsa Chihuahua





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Beit Shemesh – Israel – Child Abuse - Misogyny – Human Rights – Mashugana (strange desert god/religion)

G*d only speaks to me - not y*u!

I don’t know how to approach this story.  I am reluctant to touch anything Jewish for fear of being labeled an anti-Semite, the most abused label on the planet after the term “nazi”.

But I have seen this story on various blogs and expressing its opinions as it slowly makes its way out of Israel to the real world and light of reason.

To make a long story short, there are a bunch of ultra-orthhodox Jews living in the town of Beit Shemesh near Tel-Aviv that are coming up again uber-orthodox Jews who spit on an eight year old girl on the way to school.  She was not wearing the Jewish Sharia equivalent of a Burkha, to keep these horny uber-dudes from being temped and getting hard-ons in the presence of female flesh.

It sounds like a page out of Iran Sharia etc. and the standard hatred of women by the gay (one superior sex) mean desert god than many Jews, Christians and Muslims worship.  Worship a bit too much and a bit too hard.

Of course the fundamentalist Jews in Israel are the beard for the secular state of Israel and all that Jewish religious stuff that the crazy fundy Christians go in for like Bachmann, Perry, Hagee etc.

There is also an underlying hatred among secular Jews in Israel against the Fundy Jews that do no military services and apparently pay no taxes either etc. and they have more say in this town about how inferior women should or should not get an education and whether these satans in dresses sit in the back of the bus or not so to speak.  But like I said there is a method to the madness with the religious beard thing and a reason a so-called state of Israel exists.

This fundamentalist takeover of the public square and in favor of the closeted gay monotheistic desert god seems to be a disease among the ignorant amongst the Jews, Christians and Muslims worldwide.

Church and state should be separate and god help the Palestinians waiting for some humanity from all these Mashuganas who cannot help but abuse a girl child in the name of their strange desert god.






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Tuesday, December 27, 2011

The Poison Cup of Certainty (of Ignorance) - Hitchens - Prestonwood Plano Texas




"...to me, the offer of certainty; the offer of complete security; the offer of an impermeable faith that can't give way is an offer of something not worth having. I want to live my life taking the risk, all the time, that I don't know anything like enough, yet; that I haven't done this good enough; that I can't know enough; that I'm always hungrily operating on the margins of a potentially great harvest of future knowlege and wisdom. I wouldn't have it any other way. And I'd urge you to look at those of you who tell you... That there's people who tell you—AT YOUR AGE!—that you're dead til you believe as they do! (What a terrible thing to be telling to children!) And that you can only live... by accepting an absolute authority. Don't think of that as a gift: Think of it as a poison chalice, push it aside, however tempting it is, take the risk of thinking for yourself. Much more happiness, truth, beauty, and wisdom will come to you that way. Thank you." 



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Nixon – Finally out of the Closet



A new book out about our lavender gay hating he man prez who was perhaps just another typical Closeted Gay GOP (Gay Only Part-time) family values man with a beard and kids.


A new biography by Don Fulsom, a veteran Washington reporter who covered the Nixon years, suggests the 37th U.S. President had a serious drink problem, beat his wife and — by the time he was inaugurated in 1969 — had links going back two decades to the Mafia, including with New Orleans godfather Carlos Marcello, then America's most powerful mobster.

Yet the most extraordinary claim is that the homophobic Nixon may have been gay himself. If true, it would provide a fascinating insight into the motivation and behaviour of a notoriously secretive politician.

Fulsom argues that Nixon may have had an affair with his best friend and confidant, a Mafia‑connected Florida wheeler-dealer named Charles 'Bebe' Rebozo who was even more crooked than Nixon…

He claims Nixon's relationship with Pat, his wife of 53 years, was little more than a sham. A heavy drinker whom his own staff dubbed 'Our Drunk', Nixon used to call his First Lady a 'f***ing bitch' and beat her before, during and after his presidency, says Fulsom

The pair had separate bedrooms at the White House — and in Key Biscayne, the exclusive resort near Miami where Nixon holidayed, Mrs Nixon didn't even sleep in the same building. Rebozo, however, was in the house next door.


Fulsom claims one of Nixon's former military aides had a secret job 'to teach the President how to kiss his wife' so they would look like a convincing couple.

How much of this can we believe? Nixon died in 1994 and his reputation is pretty much irredeemable. As with Eastwood's Hoover film, there is no definitive proof, but plenty of 'supporting evidence'…

When Rebozo started his own bank in Florida in 1964, Nixon — then a lawyer — wielded a golden shovel at the ground-breaking ceremony and became its first depositor.

According to Mafioso Vincent  Teresa, the bank was used by the Mob to launder stolen cash. It hardly seems possible that Nixon, who pledged to make fighting organised crime a priority of his presidency, could not have known of his best friend's Mafia links.

Nixon had just won one of California's U.S. Senate seats when he first met Rebozo in 1950. Fearing Nixon was facing a nervous breakdown, fellow Senator George Smathers suggested a holiday in Florida and enlisted his old school friend Rebozo to show the socially awkward Nixon a good time.

Their first jaunt together — in Rebozo's 33ft fishing boat — did not go well. Rebozo later complained that Nixon just sat reading papers and, according to his host, barely said half a dozen words to him.

Smathers said Rebozo later told him: 'Don't ever send that son of a bitch Nixon down here again. He's a guy who doesn't know how to talk, doesn't drink, doesn't smoke, doesn't chase women... he can't even fish.'

But Rebozo persevered — and according to a cynical Smathers, Nixon's rising stardom in Washington and the potential influence it offered 'had a lot to do with it'.

In months, the pair were inseparable, holidaying with Nixon's wife Pat — and without her. Rebozo became an 'uncle figure' to the Nixons' two daughters, Tricia and Julie. The dapper Cuban-American chose Nixon's clothes and even selected the films he watched at the White House….

When Nixon became President, Rebozo got his own office and bedroom at the White House, and a security clearance that allowed him to go in and out without being logged by the secret service…



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Sunday, December 25, 2011

Medieval Stained Glass - St. Michael's Cathedral Coventry UK


I ran into one of those strange finds in life.  One thing led to another researching one thing on the net and then ran into a remarkable find of Medieval stained glass, over five years hundred years old, that had been taken out of Coventry Cathedral in England for protection at the beginning of WWII and before the infamous German fire bombing of Coventry in November 1940 and the destruction of St. Michael’s Cathedral as part of the destruction in the city and loss of life there.



The glass by medieval glazier John Thornton has been in a vault since.  The collection is of course not all the stain glass of the lost church.  A small part of a whole, the oldest and perhaps the best in terms of art was saved.  Salvation and now resurrection.


A recent need to raise a million pounds for emergency repairs on the still standing memorial shell of the old cathedral has arisen and the glass is to be exhibited to help raise needed cash.  They built a modern cathedral next to the lost one.  A mixing of the new with the old gives a certain continuity to the St. Michael community.


















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Philly Bar - 1938 - Christmas







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Saturday, December 24, 2011

love is all you need - love actually





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Cardinal George of Chicago – old Nazi – Godwin’s Law – Mormon Gelt – Great Hate of 2012 Underway



I guess when old Nazis like Cardinal George of Chicago need some spending cash for the holidays for their misters or mistresses, they need to call up Salt Lake City and get a talking point memo and check, cash money transter, to bash the gays.

No doubt the half senile old geezer likes calling the LGBT community KKK, no doubt the old geezer does not want to invoke Godwin’s law into the conversation.  No doubt the Roman Catholic Adolph Hitler is still too sacred a territory to touch and cannot be cited to invoke Godwin’s law.

I find the GREAT HATE OF 2012 – (the great Mormon Catholic Hate Alliance against gays in the 2012 election year) (cash for hire hate) the ongoing hate of the Mormon Hierarchy and the RC Hierarchy is underway in the true spirit of CEO Christmas – their way – not mine – and even before the calendar turns to January 1, 2012.

Is there a moral equivalent to Godwin’s law to shut up old Catholic or Mormon hate geezers like Francis George and Thomas Monson, who compare a life community in the United States to the KKK – If they could, these haters would give Jesus another 40 lashes for good measure to teach him his real place in their scheme of things.


One good fallout of this great test of moral courage for all Americans of good heart and soul is that maybe the evil, the Satan, in the hierarchies of these two church institutions merged, will burn itself out and the rest of us, including the LGBTs, can go on about our lives in peace and tranquility as the real God of common people intended after 2012.

Whatever.

Peace on Earth but only to men and women of good will.


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Friday, December 23, 2011

Grandma Got Run Over by a Reindeer - Dr. Elmo




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NJ Catholic “Religious Liberty” Bigots wants to erase Thomas Nast from History books – anybody got a match?




The artist cartoonist Thomas Nast 1840-1902, who invented the images of Uncle Sam, Santa Claus, the Republican Elephant, the Democratic Donkey and brought down the corrupt Boss Tweed NYC admin in the 1870s with his pen, is being dissed in his grave by a bunch of catholic “religious liberty” bigots who want to remove him from the New Jersey Hall of Fame.


This, in the new spirit of catholic "religious liberty" exceptionalism. All American Protestant Christian history not conforming to love of the RCC must be rewritten or drastically revised, if not outright totally destroyed.





So typical of the catholic fascist bully mindset to want to tear pages out of history and art books for the sake of ethnic purity and cleansing.  Why not just burn down the whole public library state Reps. DeAngelo and Rible instead of just a few books that you and your papist masters don’t like?

Nast was the Main Stream Media back then.  To remove him is just more retro-GOP-revisionist history.



Of course then, in the spirit of the times back when, Nast did depict the Pope as some misogynist, money grubbing, territory stealing monarch.  The only thing left out of the papist Nast Cartoons was the pedophilia.  Art imitated reality a bit too accurately back then perhaps except for well kept secret crimes.


And some of my boot licking drunk Irish Catholic ancestors got depicted in Simian profile.  But hell, they did look like a bunch of my ancestors malnourished and working under paid in upstate Pennsylvania coal mines etc. from memory and old photos.

Like the Catholic Guinea ringleader of the Supreme Court says “Get over it!”



Get a life.  Get a hobby.  Get a heart. My God what a bunch of losers on the public dole these days in both parties!



Why does the Virgin Mary wear a Hijab, Head Scarf, Burkha?



1 Corinthians 11:2-5,7-9

I praise you for remembering me in everything and for holding to the traditions just as I passed them on to you. 

3 But I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man,and the head of Christ is God. 

4 Every man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonors his head. 

5 But every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head—it is the same as having her head shaved…

A man ought not to cover his head,since he is the image and glory of God; but woman is (only) the glory of man. 

8 For man did not come from woman, but woman from man; 

9 neither was man created for woman, but woman for man.



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Ode to Joy Scene - Immortal Beloved





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Japanese Christmas Traditions


In the growing global culture, the Japanese, some Japanese have adopted three basic Christmas traditions.


One is decorating with lights.  The other is to gather in groups and sing Beethoven's ninth as well as on Western New Year's Day.  That, some gift giving and Christmas Cake.  Strawberry short cake by any other name. Yum. Yum.


Christmas is not an official holiday in Japan with less than a 1% Christian minority. 

(edited 12-28-11)

And Christmas KFC:







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In the Spirit of the Season - and to take Religious Propaganda Rubbish out of the Town Square


Thursday, December 22, 2011

Angel Flying Too Close To The Ground - Willie Nelson




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Shroud of Turin Faked – Satan’s Magic Cloth – Fraud dictated, letter perfect details, fitted to Synoptic Gospels – Jesus Seminar

Perfect Fit to the Synoptic Gospels - Too Perfect

Just as Bishop Lahey of Nova Scotia is apologizing in a courtroom, sorry he got caught trying to distribute kiddie porn, just as the most recent Dutch Church sex abuse scandal is breaking loose, Italian Experts (tourist experts?) authenticate the medieval faked relic, The Shroud of Turin, the so-called burial cloth of Christ, just in time for feel good about the church Midnight Mass services on Christmas Eve.  The lie continues one more season in the eight thousand season history of the church of Rome.


It is the twenty first century and people are still clinging to an art fraud from the fourteenth century to stimulate faith. Fraud does not stimulate faith. Fraud stimulates more fraud. 

The cloth, “the Shroud of Turin”, which has a unique image imprinted on it, put there by some lost process, is just one lone survivor of the thriving phony relic business of the middle ages. Enough pieces of the true cross were sold by the church, enough to build apartment buildings along with hundreds of gallons of Christ’s blood, were hallmarks of a corrupt age that preceded the selling of indulgences and the Reformation. 

The Roman church clings to its pagan roots and pagan fascination with superstitions that equal relics with good luck and magic. 

So now after many tests including modern carbon dating and putting the Shroud firmly in the fourteenth century, the RC church is selling the same old shit to inspire faith at a current exhibit in Turin. Shit that inspires faith is superstition or shit faith. 

People, fanatics keep coming up with more bizarre ways that could prove this Bogus Turin cloth to be the actual burial cloth of Jesus of Nazareth. Can I sell you some shares in the Brooklyn Bridge?

The Shroud is a fraud because it conforms to the exact details of the synoptic gospels, written fifty to hundred years after Jesus. Oral history changes over times. The gospels, their alleged facts are there in writing. Logic to me dictates that the oral history of the gospels finally written down would miss details or add them. This cloth does not challenge the established story recreated and finalized decades after the ministry of Jesus. 

Because the Shroud conforms to an image of Jesus with a crown of thorns and a spear wound in his side and other markings on the cloth, that cloth was made to order. Made to order to conform to gospels which if you believe the Jesus Seminar only accurately quote Jesus eighteen percent of the time in those accounts written much later than Jesus’ lifetime. 

If the most important part of the gospels, the words and ideas of Jesus are on shaky grounds, how can anybody believe the stage sets drawn around the words to illustrate the story. 

So if you get an object that conforms to faulty gospels one hundred percent – it is hardly proof but a customized sure hit bogus relic. 

There is some fascinating literature about the Shroud. Most of that has been written in the last forty odd years and concerns the use of analysis and science to disprove this magic cloth possibly originating from the king of all fraud – Satan.


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